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Sergei krikalev flight engineer for

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expedition 1 the director now of the

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Gagarin cosmonaut training center in

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Star City Russia Sergey thank you very

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much for joining us today it's hard to

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believe it's been 10 years since you and

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Bill Sheppard and Yuri get Zenko

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launched on the soyuz tma scraf to the

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international space station from here in

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Baikonur to be in that first mission the

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first occupancy of the station that has

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begun unbroken permanent human occupancy

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of the space station tell us your

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thoughts as you look back on October

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31st 2000 when the three of you climbed

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aboard what were your thoughts at that

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time a great deal came to my the main

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thought I had was that now it's starting

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for real a long chain of expeditions

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this is our first work oftentimes it's

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the way you started the way it's going

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to go now so I felt a huge load of

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responsibility then about responsibility

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for what we're going to do however into

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begins what is going to come out was

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especially critical then because that

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was the first day of a human being when

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born that was constrained by the

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availability of the systems for

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life-support onboard the station and it

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was critical to stay in station and not

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to live the moment of exhausting those

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resources in addition to the beginning

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we start that would have supported the

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functioning of human being onboard the

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station

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a two-day flight from the launch pad

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here in Baikonur to the International

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Space Station and then you finally

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arrived you dock and you prepare to open

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up the hatches as as the three of you

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opened the hatch to the station for the

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first time and floated inside

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I remember that you all you grasp each

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other's hands in jubilation you're very

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happy to arrive on the station did you

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have a sense of history that this was a

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very historic moment that you were

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beginning a new chapter in human

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spaceflight it was of course we did

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understand that was the beginning

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although frankly that was the second

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opening of the hatch because the first

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time I opened the hatch was between the

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FGB in the node expedition sts-88 we

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entered the station for the first time

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the station was very small then it was

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only a GB in the node and though it was

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the first entry and for me this one was

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sort of a research station but returning

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as a member of the expedition and of

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course as you as you point out the

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station it was it was an infant at the

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time very primitive very simple just a

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couple of modules it's no significant

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infrastructure to the station at that

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time technically did you feel as if you

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were pioneers in a sense in this

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brand-new facility how primitive was it

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what was day-to-day living life work was

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close to usual because I used to live at

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the station for many months at the MIR

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station the thing that was unusual was

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that we would have to open the station

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turn the light on install television

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find all the cables that were hidden

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and although the station was small it

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had a full set of all the necessary life

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supports they were just in activated and

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we had to put some of them together and

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start operating on the station

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activation there was a question on

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experiments and what were the most

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interesting experiments I would always

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say the most the greatest experiment was

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the assembly and revival of the station

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making it come to life

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Sergey as you mentioned arriving with

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expedition 1 in November of 2000

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actually marked your second arrival on

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the station after sts-88 which was the

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first assembly flight of course for the

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complex for you some sense of

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familiarity how did you convey to both

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Bill Sheppard and arrogance anko what it

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was going to be like once you arrived on

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board in reality we all knew what was

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supposed to be there the training was

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very long it was very detailed very

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important acerra ly too involved so we

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had a pretty good idea what we were

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going to encounter it was interesting to

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have a sense to have a few of the new

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orders a new way of life on the station

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because the station itself was

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international and it had international

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crew from the very beginning it was

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interesting to work with the two Mission

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Control centers and under their guidance

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coming back to the station we were

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coming back with new quality in a new

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role and again did you feel as if you

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were pioneers in a sense this starting

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an international process here that was

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going to be unprecedented in spaceflight

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history moment we were thinking of the

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present and the moment we were in

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although subconsciously we understood

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that that was a certain threshold that

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we were supposed to cross ten years

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Space Station has grown into a massive

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complex visible in the night sky very

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easily on a clear night capable of

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supporting six people as we see today

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did is this the space station that you

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had envisioned ten years ago when

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yes almost like that we had the days

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here similar to the one in the Nexus the

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only thing is we didn't anticipate the

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same configuration and five years ago I

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expected that the station would have

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been fully assembled and I would have

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preferred to work on a more

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sophisticated equipment but

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unfortunately the Assembly of the

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station happened as it happened the

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period Julie is quite understandable and

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now the station is virtually assemble

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one of the elements that we wanted to

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see on this station from the very start

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already is present there and I know that

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the cost but not some enjoy the view of

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the space I get I get the sense that

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you'd almost like to go back again is

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that something that you ever might do

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again or or your flying days

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yeah my views I hope their accession

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opportunity buisness it would be

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interesting to be at the station when

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it's fully assembled finally because

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when I was there there was only two

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there were only two elements was the

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first wave expedition I remember some

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questions which what would you like and

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bigger now it has grown bigger there are

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many people who think that the

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construction of the space station to

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what it is today

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it may be the greatest accomplishment in

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the history of human spaceflight and

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that includes the moon landings because

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of the complexity involved in your mind

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do you see it that way

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has the station fulfilled its potential

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yet to fulfill its scientific

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experimental results was focusing on

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from the very first flight the biggest

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experiment is the building in the

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Assembly of the station and the greatest

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achievement is in spite of international

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cooperation the building of the station

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continued stages and right now we're at

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the stage where is the final completion

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stage virtually speaking the very fact

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that that project came came to life and

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was and actually was accomplished is the

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greatest achievement last year for the

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first time all the partner agencies were

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represented at one time aboard the

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International Space Station a true

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symbol of international cooperation how

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impressed are you

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nobody's flown in space for as many days

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as you how impressed are you that the

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station has overcome language technical

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countries the various countries to be as

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successful as it has been it was a goal

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it was a dream and we thought that

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that's exactly the way the work should

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get done on the station and that's the

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way it should continue and so in our

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thoughts we have decided a long time ago

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that that was the normal course of

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events that the specialists of different

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countries would be working together

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because we used to work to collaborate

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with the traditional partners of

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multilateral levels and it's turned into

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a qualitatively new level and I think

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that's the way it was supposed to be you

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something for a long time then it seems

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anything unusual about that in your mind

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how do you see the station as a as a

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forerunner for future spaceflight

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activities beautiful in the same ways

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with the MIR station so stations that

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you support space flights are a basis a

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foundation for them for any remote

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missions because remote missions tend to

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be lengthy we have learned to fly for a

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long time and to support life onward for

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a long time and we learned how to build

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international cooperation we have some

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in significant projects together and see

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whether we'll be able to complete them

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that were capable of doing the most

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of interchange at the start where the

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communication sessions happen only when

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it's necessary and autonomous measures

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autonomous standalone actions complexes

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are matter of the future Sergei if

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somebody told you I want you to write

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the history of human spaceflight what

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place in history with the international

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yeah when your card for me to prioritize

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what is more important of course

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the events at first the launch of the

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first satellite or the first extra

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vehicular accidents or a flight to the

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moon these are most very important steps

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impossible to achieve further are a part

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of the chain of events also the success

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today with respect to the fact that we

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were able to do it all together this is

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one of the few in of the exploration if

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I were to prioritize I would prioritize

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the events chronologically years down

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the road one clue one would be able to

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reevaluate the importance of each

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individual event we're just a few months

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anniversary the 50th anniversary of Yuri

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Gagarin launching not far from where

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we're sitting to become the first human

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in space it certainly changed the world

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forever in your mind what was the

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significance of that flight and the

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significance of where we've come in

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it was the first flight uncertainty

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right now it may appear a trivial those

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tears that were given to the first

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cosmonaut they were it really was from

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the modern point of view but so critical

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to try and dream nobody was certain that

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a person could have steady breathing in

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that stage or nobody had a hundred

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percent confidence the person would be

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psychologically stable in the state of

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nothing else would have been possible in

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the future soldier the guren flight is a

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great event in the russian space

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exploration history and it has allowed

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us internationally to make further steps

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because we understood that the first one

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was possible sergei krikalev thank you

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so much for taking the time we

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appreciate it very much and

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congratulations ten years since